So if you were to get a new car.....

[Addict]

Guidelines:
1. Under $30,000 before tax, title, etc.
2. Has to be a roomy car. Doesn't have to be a sedan but you gotta be able to put golf clubs or more than a gallon of milk in it.
3. Must be reasonable on insurance.
4. Must have torque. This pretty much rules out any Hondas (not bashing; I've owned 2).
5. Can NOT be a project. Has to be quick out of the box. Example: Get a '93 hatch and swap an engine in it. <- not good

So. Lets hear some ideas. Keep it on topic. Don't argue with another person about why your choice is better. Everyone has an opinion and I wanna hear 'em. I'll list what I'm looking at after I see some ideas. ;)

[V8killimports]

Pontiac Solstice

http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/general_motors/pontiac/pontiac-solstice/pontiac-solstice-02.htm

[B16DoHcCrx033003]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31831&item=2468959685

nuttin like a cummings turbo with and old body dodge

[pdiggitydogg]

damn $30K limit...there goes the porsche...

2k5 mustang gt I guess......

but no project??? Thats like...my whole life. I cant imagine a car that wouldnt be a project.

[c0ng0 b0ng0]

i would get a ls1 camero in another thread someone told me they are very very fast, faster than a mustang gt

[IALuder]

fast and new out of the box. the new GTO.

[Kyle]

does it have to be a car?

[Wren57]

New GTO or G35 (sedan OR coupe)

[KwikR6]

R1
It'll kick the crap out of all those!

EDIT: YEs it has to be a car.
Hrm..2k5 Stang...

[4doorspeedman]

99 m3 all the way got to lave those e42 m3's runs like a raped ape and is the best handeling car no option that or like a 89 porche 911 targa alwasy like that body style

[KwikR6]

I was fasho going to say a M3...but I didn't know how much they go for in USD!?

[mylittlecivic]

http://fmcandco.free.fr/show/concentres2003/Koln/TN_100_0047.JPG


ahhh

[pimpinprelude]

that car is pimp...:cool:

[nindoo]

Acura RSX type S A-SPEC (tight car especially in the back, but its honda and its sporty. The A-SPEC makes the rsx look much better)

Dodge SRT-4 (I would lease it, I'm not sure of the car's reliability)

Ford Mustang GT Coupe (But It would be really cool if you could get the Mach1)

===Really pushing that 30k limit===
Nissan 350Z

Nissan Maxima

Mitsubushi Lancer Evolution



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If it doesn't need to be a car
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Ford F150 XLT -------- American Muscle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MAXed Out]

Originally posted by SFKing
fast and new out of the box. the new GTO.
Hell motha fuckin yeah!

[juvenile]

I would probably look at some of the cars already mentioned, plus the new TL (280hp isn't that bad at all) and a few others I can't name of the top of my head right now.

I thought it was only the TL's that came with A-SPEC?

[nindoo]

Originally posted by juvenile
I would probably look at some of the cars already mentioned, plus the new TL (280hp isn't that bad at all) and a few others I can't name of the top of my head right now.

I thought it was only the TL's that came with A-SPEC?

TL comes A-SPEC as well

one inch suspension lower

body kit

better mags and rubber


on the rsx you get the high spoiler

-on the civic ex coupe you have the a similar package but I forget what's its called.

[ChrisCantSkate]

does it have to be new? a 2003 is300 would be my choice

[Daviso27]

That new Fukin Neon w/turbo...Dem sh!ts are wicked fast...Torque...Yes..Under $30K...Yes...Simple interior, but they have a mean looking MUG!

[Addict]

Originally posted by V8killimports
Pontiac Solstice

Too small.
Originally posted by B16DoHcCrx033003
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31831&item=2468959685

nuttin like a cummings turbo with and old body dodge
No trucks. And that thing is fugly.
Originally posted by c0ng0 b0ng0
i would get a ls1 camero in another thread someone told me they are very very fast, faster than a mustang gt
Gas mileage. I drive about 50 miles a day to/from work. Lacks room.
Originally posted by SFKing
fast and new out of the box. the new GTO.
$30k limit.
Originally posted by Kyle
does it have to be a car?
Yes.
Originally posted by highlander
New GTO or G35 (sedan OR coupe)
The sedan perhaps. Not real sure I like the looks.
Originally posted by 4doorspeedman
99 m3 all the way got to lave those e42 m3's runs like a raped ape and is the best handeling car no option that or like a 89 porche 911 targa alwasy like that body style
Can you say insurance rapage?? The M series Beamers are very pricey to insure.
Originally posted by mylittlecivic
http://fmcandco.free.fr/show/concentres2003/Koln/TN_100_0047.JPG

ahhh
lol... Old school pimpin?
Originally posted by nindoo
Acura RSX type S A-SPEC (tight car especially in the back, but its honda and its sporty. The A-SPEC makes the rsx look much better)

Dodge SRT-4 (I would lease it, I'm not sure of the car's reliability)

Ford Mustang GT Coupe (But It would be really cool if you could get the Mach1)

===Really pushing that 30k limit===
Nissan 350Z

Nissan Maxima

Mitsubushi Lancer Evolution



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If it doesn't need to be a car
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Ford F150 XLT -------- American Muscle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RSX is ok. Still I'd prefer more room. You're probably right about the SRT.
Not sure how the gas mileage will run on the Stang.
350Z lacks room.
Maxima is REALLY pushing the $30k limit.
The new F-150's are nice! But no truck for me.
Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
does it have to be new? a 2003 is300 would be my choice
Finally someone mentions the IS300. ;) Its one of my choices.


Here's the list
EVO8
WRX (maybe an STi, scoop is crazy)
IS300

I test drove an EVO yesterday. All I have to say is wow. Its an amazing car. I may be able to get a good deal on it as well. We'll see.
I'm hoping to make it to a Subaru dealer to test drive a WRX. And then over to the Lexus dealer. The IS300 is sort of my "realistic dream car". I've wanted one ever since they came out. Last April I promised myself I'd have one in 2 years. We'll see what happens.

[IALuder]

STi or the GTO

[Addict]

Originally posted by SFKing
STi or the GTO
MSRP is $33k on the GTo. I'd be curious to see how close teh dealer price is. The main issue is that its a Pontiac. That means in about 2 years everything on that car will rattle, squeak, & come apart.

[pbateson]

Are you too tall?

Get WRX or EVO or IS300 or Mercedes-Benz C-Class.

Don't get GTO cuz USA made the engine weak.

I perfer Sedan than coupe.

What about Audi S4?

[nindoo]

I totatally forgot about Audi

good obervation pbateson.

The IS300, is a nice car. Its rear wheel drive and its got a straight six. I find its a little bit pricey for the car, but then again its cheaper then a bmw.


If I were to finance the car I would calculate the difference of buying a new car and a used car.

Lets say the dealer gives you 3% and you decide to finance $30,000 for 4 years you pay $31,873

Lets say your buying a used car and you need to finance $25,000 for 4 years and their rate is 7%, you end up paying $28,735


So If there is a 5k difference between a new and used car's sticker price, I think I would go new.

[IALuder]

ha at the audi A4. get the audi S4. those baby are way faster then the a series.

[thermal]

SRT-4 are fast freaking cars..... gotta have turbo!:yes:

[AkimboStylee]

^ of course you would ay that! so you want an economical car that is cool looking and has room that is under 30K: saturn ion quad cuope! nice car and fast, coming out with a stock turbo soon, called the sturn ion redline 220hp with a 2.2L DOHC stock turbo!

[GeneralDzur]

WRX STi

- Dzur

[IALuder]

nothing is better then a STi.:yes:

[Senshi]

Originally posted by pbateson


What about Audi S4?


YES YES YES GET A FUCKING S4, in pearl white, and lower it with some gunmetal 18's and just mess on your car b/c its so beautiful

[4doorspeedman]

how about an old 302 boss mustang right around 30k and yes you are righ m class = insrance rapage but so doe a s4 wich the m3 will smoooooooooke but then im biated twords the bimmer
I say get the sti or the lexus thought depends what is more impotant to ya luxery or speed

[IALuder]

STi= luxuary with speed.

[ebpda9]

Forester XT 13.8 quarter mile stock, awd and shitlaods of room, if not a WRX or the 2.5 Leagcy GT. :yes:

[member]

New used S2000...

[AkimboStylee]

how about a turbo pt crusier?

[Addict]

Originally posted by SFKing
ha at the audi A4. get the audi S4. those baby are way faster then the a series.
The S4 is a trim level of the A4. Just FYI.
They also start at $45k. Nice thought though.
Originally posted by thermalfi'd16
SRT-4 are fast freaking cars..... gotta have turbo!:yes:
Still a Neon no matter what they wanna say.
Yeah I'm bitten by the boost bug too. I love the IS300, but I love boost more.
Originally posted by 4doorspeedman
how about an old 302 boss mustang right around 30k and yes you are righ m class = insrance rapage but so doe a s4 wich the m3 will smoooooooooke but then im biated twords the bimmer
I say get the sti or the lexus thought depends what is more impotant to ya luxery or speed
Yeah I drive 50 miles a day for work. Gas mileage is a BIG plus. That 302 would drain a tank faster than I could fill it up.
Originally posted by SFKing
STi= luxuary with speed.
Not hardly. The STi is meant for speed. You realize its an OPTION to have a radio in there right?
Originally posted by krwheeler85
how about a turbo pt crusier?
You my friend should be shot for even bringing that up.:no:

[KwikR6]

Originally posted by Addict


You my friend should be shot for even bringing that up.:no:
hahaha
IS300 for me!

[AkimboStylee]

i test drove the turbo pt, dont get me wrong that thing cam move and with the upgrade kit it is still under 30k!

[drdingo21]

Look into a new accord. I got mine fully loaded with the navi for 27900 (had to haggle) but i love the car. You should defnitly go test drive one.

I drive 50 mile to work everday and get 30 mpg. The car has a good amount of power. You should defintly go take a look at one.

[IALuder]

what about the new turbo volvos or saabs.

[JDMFantasy2k]

all i have to say is 350Z!!!

not to mention it's based off the 3.5L vq series engine which i think won some sort of award, and since i also own a maxima which runs a destroked version (vq30de) i know that it is very torquey and has big top end nut. Raise the displacement and mate it with a 6speed tranny and the awesome 350 z body and you have a combination for performance, style, and potential to have wet-panties thrown all over your car. Not to mention there's some nice performance mods out there and i think the as tested price is usually around 32k ish.

[c0ng0 b0ng0]

ok so whoever will get the pt cruzer that is a bad choise everything is faster than that and it looks like a loaf of bread

[VR4_Craver]

Originally posted by c0ng0 b0ng0
ok so whoever will get the pt cruzer that is a bad choise everything is faster than that and it looks like a loaf of bread

jesus you just dont quit do you? my buddy has a Turbo pt and his mother owns the 220 hp GT version. Both of them yes BOTH of them will eat my car alive and your car seeing as they are the same.....

what about the new turbo volvos or saabs

i think that they are more than 30k

What about Audi S4?

bah! get the A8 if your going audi....Twin turbo or V8 anyone;) :yes:

[c0ng0 b0ng0]

no i think you are wrong but i will race my friend that has one and beat him. i will see.

[black95gs-t]

Your new rules are in the eclipses thread in the kills section. Sorry about hijacking your thread.

[Misundaztood]

WS6 TransAm.:cool:

[IALuder]

those things a killer on insurnace. plus are they really that "roomy".

[GT40FIED]

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
2k5 mustang gt I guess......

This would be my choice too. I would say wait till '06 and buy a Cobra (there won't be one in '05), but that'd probably overshoot the $30K limit by a tad. My brother's planning on an '05 or '06 GT.

[nindoo]

Do not get SAAB,

Extremely expensive to repair.

Overrated.

[AkimboStylee]

^but know it is a subsidorary of gm, so parts will be cheaper

[GT40FIED]

Not necessarily. It's owned by GM but it's like a satellite company...the same way Ford owns Jaguar or Land Rover. It still has it's own management, soppliers, etc. so I'm sure nothing will change. I wouldn't even be suprised if GM actually tried to increase the prices just to milk it for all it's worth. Like the Hummers. The H2 is a Hot Wheels car compared to the sort of "missle attack...what missle attack?" original Humvee (now the H1). Those things were practically indestructable...they were NOT grocery getters.

[Addict]

Originally posted by JDMFantasy2k
all i have to say is 350Z!!!

Doesn't meet the room requirements.
Originally posted by black95gs-t
Your new rules are in the eclipses thread in the kills section. Sorry about hijacking your thread.
Say what?
Originally posted by Misundaztood
WS6 TransAm.:cool:
Umm. Gas. Insurance. Lack of room. 3 strikes! Your OUT!


Well I was going to just drop the entire idea. I gave myself the weekend to calmly & logically think about. And I had decided against getting a new car now.

Well then I get a call today at 4pm from the sales man. He just got an EVO in off lease or trade (not sure) with ~7000 miles on it. And to top it off, its the silver color with the moonroof. The same exact setup that I test drove. *sigh* So I'm going in tomorrow at lunch and seeing what kind of magic numbers they can give me.

My fiance is gonna kill me. I haven't even had the Eclipse for a year. I had my 2 previous cars for about 2 years each. Then again I regretted getting a convertible about a week after I had it. Don't get me wrong the car is FAST. Especially with the minor upgrades. I don't have issues with alot of the cars around. My logic has shifted to needing space. Damn I guess I'm getting old.:|

[nindoo]

The WRX STI has a poor engine reliability review, so really check out the EVO's report.

Its fun to have a really tuned car, but you don't want to be at the garage every month.

What's happening to VW, they are getting horrible engine reliability ratings.

I would of reccomended a vr6 jetta, but I hear from many resources that its reliability is questionable.

RSX TYPE A-SPEC has a good backgorund when it comes to reliability(Integra), and it should be fun to drive. But two doors.

Maybe in Ohio there are used RSX-Type S's, could help you save some cash.

Remember to check the rate to finance a new car and the rate the finance the old car and compare the amount you end up paying the loan creditors.

[Addict]

Well...
Subarus have always gotten bad reliablity ratings. Not sure why. Same with VW.

As far the 'really tuned car'. Ever owned a DSM?;) If you lapse on the regular maintenance, you'll know. These cars need regular lovin'.

That said. I came to my senses and decided to keep the GS-T. I'm just going to keep it till it falls apart or blows up..... or both. So up next is the exhaust & coilovers(never installed the skunk2's i had).
....so hondaman needs to hook a brutha up!:yes:

[pbateson]

Get the used G35 Coupe or Sedan, but sedan have more room.

[drdingo21]

dam it, go test drive the accord...



jesus i sound like stefan

[Addict]

Originally posted by drdingo21
dam it, go test drive the accord...

jesus i sound like stefan

Yeah you Accord-ites are all alike. "You mean they make a car other than the Accord? Well I wouldn't drive it anyhow.";)

[mylittlecivic]

i never thought id say this but one of my friends got an eagle talon and its really nice i like it alot:yes:

[nindoo]

most VW's are made in Mexico and the VW GTI is made in Brazil. There bolted together, that could be why there quality has decreased. I guess WRX's problems come from making there engines so tuned. I guess they are still working on the refining part.

What about a TSX 6 speed manual ?It's got some torque and horsepower. Its much heavier than a RSX TYPE S that the only thing I don't like once you start moving up the model lineup.

There's a new golf R32. I find it pretty nice, I'm not sure whether its made in germany. The MSRP is 29,100 so I'm pretty sure its more than 30k when you go to the dealer.