Seriously... [Archive]

Wren57

04-21-2003, 12:14 AM

OK, lets face it. Hondas were NOT built for speed. Any type of speed. Some of you on here seem to understand that while others don't. Do not get me wrong, I love driving my friends civic, but it is neither fast nor has much potential to be fast. I know some people say they mod their civics to be "fast" so they are "different", but when every kid on every corner has one, are they really different? It is a parallel to "alternative" music becoming the norm with teenagers. And as far as having something cheap enough to modify, come on there are far cheaper things than civics to mod with the same amount of money to go faster in any competition. Lets think about this.

5k Civic + 5k mods < 5k 1st gen eclipse + 5k mods
5k Civic + 10k mods < 10k 240sx with 5k mods
5k Civic + 15k mods < BPU TT Supra

When looking at different price ranges of mods, a civic can be outclassed and outmatched in every category, AutoX, Drag, Road, Track, etc with the same amount of money by many other cars. I dont mean to sound like a dick, I just don't want people waisting their money for a mediocre product. Like I said before, they are cool cars and if having one is what you want, go for it, but if you are looking for a specific type of speed and not just fun in the car, you are using the wrong platform. Yes it is fun to mod cars that aren't practical to mod (I modded my highlander:rolleyes: ), but I had no real end-goal in sight, no particular field of performance I wanted to dominate because I knew it was a futile effort. Basically what I am saying is if you like modding just to mod, a honda works, but if you are modding to serve a purpose (speed), a honda just isn't the proper car to start with. Just my thoughts.

nonovurbizniz

04-21-2003, 12:15 AM

word... someone mark that down... that's twice highlander and I have agreed in less than a month... cat's and dog's will soon be sleeping together.

AzCivic

04-21-2003, 12:38 AM

So if you already own a Honda why not make it fast??? I know the history of my car and how well it was taken car of. I'm within a couple of months of paying it off, so i'm not about to get rid of it for some one elses hoopty or get myself way into debt.

I see what your saying, but some people just want to keep what they got and make it faster.

Furthermore a civic isnt that bad of a platform, with the right combination and smarts they can be made really fast and handle really well. Its the smarts part that keeps you from wasting money on needless things.

nonovurbizniz

04-21-2003, 12:41 AM

I think that's what he IS saying though...

if it's what you got then mod it and have fun...

but if your talking about building a super car or dumping 10k into your civic at once then just cut your losses now and get a better platform.

If you have a civic you can sell it and get ANY other same year/class car for cheaper. If I didn't have BD I'd sell mine and get an ser as soon as I could find one... they're just better to start with.

Wren57

04-21-2003, 12:42 AM

Like I said, keeping what ya got to make it faster is one thing, but having a goal in mind eg. 1/4 speed, a civic isn't the thing to be going with...

AzCivic

04-21-2003, 12:48 AM

AAAHHHH I see.

I totally agree then.

juvenile

04-21-2003, 01:08 AM

I totally agree with you. 110% :yes:

sc0rch

04-21-2003, 03:46 AM

what? you meen a 1.6-2.0ltr 4 banger isnt fast?......man why you gotta ruin it for everyone?.......pecker......... ;) ;) ;)

sc0rch

04-21-2003, 03:51 AM

really thought......i dont care how fast the thing is......i just want people to say "damn thats a nice looking car" and after i do everything to make it a little quicker i know i wont be satisfied till i have a car that throws me back in the seat....so i'll buy something else and do the same to it......

oh and i'll prolly slap someone next time they say "man that car is pimp" its a honda......pimp and honda dont go together.......20s dont belong on a honda....makes it look like its 4 wheel drive.......you know what im sayin my nizzle

Addict

04-21-2003, 07:10 AM

I think most people realize that Hondas are not a 'god-send'.
However.....
You can't beat a having a car that you can mod with basically anything off the shelf, and still maintain a good reliable daily driver.

nonovurbizniz

04-21-2003, 08:46 AM

no comparable car is any less reliable when modded... exept maybe an eclips/talon... but they're just as un-reliable from the factory... but when you get a good one... MUCH better than a civic.

ebpda9

04-21-2003, 08:52 AM

so here we are talking civics right ? i know i have a 2950 lbs powered by a blasting 125hp powerplant but the car is fun. IMO hondas are the best fun behind the wheel in their price range. You guys might be obsessed with the 1/4 times and HP but i could care less about that. i like a car that handles good, it's fun to drive and revs high.

Racing Rice

04-21-2003, 09:39 AM

Another pointless thread woohoo.:rolleyes:

Yeah, so what. Hondas arent factory bread race cars. But then again neither is any other econo car that people spend way to much money on. So what if I want to waste my money on a civic. If I wanted to make my civic run 10s, who are you to tell me that I shouldnt do it. Sure, its not built for speed. But it is still possible for a civic to run 10s in the 1/4. If it takes me a quarter of a million dollars to do it, so what. Thats my problem.

I want to make a honda run 10s. I cant do that with any other car because a toyota isnt a honda.

Sure it would be nice to be able to go out and buy a new G35. But reality is not everyone wants a new G35 or maybe they cant afford one. Thats what makes the world go around.

I agree with you. Spending a ton of money trying to make a Honda fast is kinda dumb. But if thats what someone wants to do. Who am I or you to stop them, or even try to redirect thier thinking. :rolleyes:

Challenge is what drives people to become better.

ChrisCantSkate

04-21-2003, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
so here we are talking civics right ? i know i have a 2950 lbs powered by a blasting 125hp powerplant but the car is fun. IMO hondas are the best fun behind the wheel in their price range. You guys might be obsessed with the 1/4 times and HP but i could care less about that. i like a car that handles good, it's fun to drive and revs high.
i must agree here.... ive driven a few other cars, and although mine is not the fastest or anything, it is a blast to drive.

SolPol

04-21-2003, 10:04 AM

Honda is, without a doubt, the best all around car to have. From price, to perfomance and handling out of a stock car. Not to mention the most fun to mod.

Oh yeah, and one of the longer lasting.

cashizslick

04-21-2003, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Addict
I think most people realize that Hondas are not a 'god-send'.
However.....
You can't beat a having a car that you can mod with basically anything off the shelf, and still maintain a good reliable daily driver.

Ahh yes, the term "RELIABLE". That word should not be in the same sentance as Eclipse or 240.

oc civic

04-21-2003, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by highlander
OK, lets face it. Hondas were NOT built for speed. Any type of speed. Some of you on here seem to understand that while others don't. Do not get me wrong, I love driving my friends civic, but it is neither fast nor has much potential to be fast. I know some people say they mod their civics to be "fast" so they are "different", but when every kid on every corner has one, are they really different? It is a parallel to "alternative" music becoming the norm with teenagers. And as far as having something cheap enough to modify, come on there are far cheaper things than civics to mod with the same amount of money to go faster in any competition. Lets think about this.

5k Civic + 5k mods < 5k 1st gen eclipse + 5k mods
5k Civic + 10k mods < 10k 240sx with 5k mods
5k Civic + 15k mods < BPU TT Supra

When looking at different price ranges of mods, a civic can be outclassed and outmatched in every category, AutoX, Drag, Road, Track, etc with the same amount of money by many other cars. I dont mean to sound like a dick, I just don't want people waisting their money for a mediocre product. Like I said before, they are cool cars and if having one is what you want, go for it, but if you are looking for a specific type of speed and not just fun in the car, you are using the wrong platform. Yes it is fun to mod cars that aren't practical to mod (I modded my highlander:rolleyes: ), but I had no real end-goal in sight, no particular field of performance I wanted to dominate because I knew it was a futile effort. Basically what I am saying is if you like modding just to mod, a honda works, but if you are modding to serve a purpose (speed), a honda just isn't the proper car to start with. Just my thoughts.

i personaly dont think you have a ****ing clue... i will agre that MOST "honda enthusiasts" are a bunch of dilusional highschool kids.. but using YOUR logic why even buy a supra or a first gen eclipse when a late 80's mustang will completely RAPE it for less overall cost.. late 80's mustang + slicks + juice + gears..... you could EASILY do this for less than 5k and it would run great in the 1/4 (mid 11 second car unless its carb and you go fogger then you could see 10's) so lets ALL buy mustangs:rolleyes: im still trying to figure out why you are even here.. you are NOT a honda owner... you suffer from the "its stilla honda syndrome.."... so then get the **** out.. BOUNCE.. no one cares about your truck... in fact i HATE trucks a LOT.. and i hate your shitty additude.. and i also why we are on the subject.. hate your OBSESION with porn.. and your posting it all over the board..grow the **** up.. get a girl.. and MAYBE we will ALL be better off..

cashizslick

04-21-2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
but using YOUR logic why even buy a supra or a first gen eclipse when a late 80's mustang will completely RAPE it for less overall cost.. late 80's mustang + slicks + juice + gears..... you could EASILY do this for less than 5k and it would run great in the 1/4 (mid 11 second car unless its carb and you go fogger then you could see 10's)

. . . . .untill the mustang breaks down (shouldnt take long) and/or you melt your pistons and crack your block.

juvenile

04-21-2003, 10:53 AM

Guys I think you misunderstand the point of his thread. He's not talking about people who just want a car to drive daily and casually add a mod or two to make it look/feel up to their standards.
He's talking about the people who want to get a civic to dump 5, 10 etc etc grand into it to make it 'fast'. If you want a fast car, Honda isn't really the best platform to choose. If you want a fun/reliable/not so expensive car, then Honda is.
Get it?

oc civic

04-21-2003, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by cashizslick
. . . . .untill the mustang breaks down (shouldnt take long) and/or you melt your pistons and crack your block.

just admit you have not a clue about what you are talking about

juvenile

04-21-2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
grow the **** up.. get a girl.. and MAYBE we will ALL be better off..

Funny thing is he's better set off in that department than you too. He never once started swearing did he? So why do you have to be a dickhead. If you don't get the point of his post then why don't you zip your little mouth, PUNK! Read my above post, and you'll get what he means!

oc civic

04-21-2003, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
Guys I think you misunderstand the point of his thread. He's not talking about people who just want a car to drive daily and casually add a mod or two to make it look/feel up to their standards.
He's talking about the people who want to get a civic to dump 5, 10 etc etc grand into it to make it 'fast'. If you want a fast car, Honda isn't really the best platform to choose. If you want a fun/reliable/not so expensive car, then Honda is.
Get it?

no i don't "get it" i dumped a decent amount into my car to make it "fast" and i plan to dump more.. my friend eric has a 92/95 hatch with a turbo h22... tell him his car is stupid.. its fater than just about everything on this board... i plan to make one more purchase for my car then get a domestic.. to make that MUCH faster.. dumping 10k into a civic would make it VERY fast... dumping 5k into it.. IF you do your own work.. would make it reasonably fast..

juvenile

04-21-2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
no i don't "get it" i dumped a decent amount into my car to make it "fast" and i plan to dump more.. my friend eric has a 92/95 hatch with a turbo h22... tell him his car is stupid.. its fater than just about everything on this board... i plan to make one more purchase for my car then get a domestic.. to make that MUCH faster.. dumping 10k into a civic would make it VERY fast... dumping 5k into it.. IF you do your own work.. would make it reasonably fast..
What kind of fast are we talking about here? Give me times, times boy!

oc civic

04-21-2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
Funny thing is he's better set off in that department than you too. He never once started swearing did he? So why do you have to be a dickhead. If you don't get the point of his post then why don't you zip your little mouth, PUNK! Read my above post, and you'll get what he means!

i cursed because of my extreme tiredness of him.. cursing is extreme expresion.. its JUST a word.. and what does "hes better set off in that department" mean anyway????what is he better than me at?? **confused**

VR4_Craver

04-21-2003, 11:02 AM

ok lets look at it this way.

2001 Toyota Highlander ratails at 23,330
lets say that a oh an 2002 Civic SI retails at 19,460

thats 3870 that i would have to toy with. lets see...
75 shot of nitrous. -500
3370 i could use the rest on turbo and just then be reachinm what you paid for your your car. Are you starting to catch on yet? I didnt even take into account the mods you have done. so must this go on?:confused:

juvenile

04-21-2003, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
i cursed because of my extreme tiredness of him.. cursing is extreme expresion.. its JUST a word.. and what does "hes better set off in that department" mean anyway????what is he better than me at?? **confused**

"get a girl.. and MAYBE we will ALL be better off.." That was directed to that comment...

Mushroom

04-21-2003, 11:04 AM

I see your point, highlander, but I think you're missing another. My civic couldn't be as fast 1/4 mi as an older stang or 240 or supra that I spent the same money on. And those cars couldn't be as fast as a motorcycle I spent the same money on. And it wouldn't be as fast as a homemade Al frame dragster I spent the same money on.

However, there's a challenge to taking an ordinary car (what's more ordinary than a civic?), personalising it and making it better than it was. There will always be something that's quicker, faster, handles better, cooler looking than whatever you drive, no matter what it is. That's not the point - the point is that it's fun to tune a car. It's a project. People have been doing it for as long as there have been cars.

Anyway, rereading your post - if you have X dollars and your only goal is to do a 1/4 mi in X seconds and you have no other objective or subjective goals, then yes, I agree, don't use civic. Your argument is very specific and you try to generalize it into "hondas aren't built for speed" which is dumb. No car is built only for speed. The S2000 is pretty fast. So is the NSX. A 240 is pretty fast, but it's not built for speed either. It has a truck engine in it.

In summary, your post and argument were just as useless as this reply.

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
What kind of fast are we talking about here? Give me times, times boy!

well lets see... i can't even imagine spending 10k.. eric spent much less that that and JUST finished the car and made a high 12 sec pass on lame tires.. im sure its a solid 12 sec car...he probably spent more than 5 but less than 7 id have to ask to give you an exact $$ amount.. im usign his car and NOT mine as an example since it is faster and fits the criteria of going fast with not a whole lot INCLUDING the car in the argument

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
"get a girl.. and MAYBE we will ALL be better off.." That was directed to that comment...

i have a girl.. she satisfies me enough that i dont need to look at porno.. so obviously I am better at that level.. or maybe it is just a maturity thing

juvenile

04-21-2003, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
i have a girl.. she satisfies me enough that i dont need to look at porno.. so obviously I am better at that level.. or maybe it is just a maturity thing
And how do you what kind of relationship he is having with his girl? Do you assume?

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by VR4_Craver
ok lets look at it this way.

2001 Toyota Highlander ratails at 23,330
lets say that a oh an 2002 Civic SI retails at 19,460

thats 3870 that i would have to toy with. lets see...
75 shot of nitrous. -500
3370 i could use the rest on turbo and just then be reachinm what you paid for your your car. Are you starting to catch on yet? I didnt even take into account the mods you have done. so must this go on?:confused:

HA nice.. thats SO true... or lets do it with a 92-95 hatch with a blown motor.. lol as the platform car.. wonder what it looks like after 20 THOUSAND dumped into it..

or wait lets do the oh, but its a truck argument im sure there are cheaper nicer trucks out there (in PEOPLES opinion) that you could dump the extra money into nice rims or whatever teh hell you buy for trucks.. lol some fog lights eh? lol HHHHHAAAA

juvenile

04-21-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
well lets see... i can't even imagine spending 10k.. eric spent much less that that and JUST finished the car and made a high 12 sec pass on lame tires.. im sure its a solid 12 sec car...he probably spent more than 5 but less than 7 id have to ask to give you an exact $$ amount.. im usign his car and NOT mine as an example since it is faster and fits the criteria of going fast with not a whole lot INCLUDING the car in the argument

So that's ~7gs just on mods or mods + car?

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
And how do you what kind of relationship he is having with his girl? Do you assume?

obviously it is inadiquate if he needs to SEARCH the internet for pics of dirty whores and girls who look like they are 14... im ASSUMING that it is not good enough for him by his ACTIONS

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
So that's ~7gs just on mods or mods + car?

car was a was since it was bough with LIGHT body damage and no motor..well a blown motor at least..

juvenile

04-21-2003, 11:19 AM

You know what people, **** this, I'm done since people read the entire thread and just posts off. VR4 Craver, Mushroom, if you would have read what I said numerous times and what he said, you would have gotten that he didn't buy that car to make it fast. His grandparents actually gave him the car. And notice that he's selling it now?!?! No, oh well I'm sorry, I guess you weren't reading enough. What he is talking about in this thread, AND I REPEAT IT AGAIN, is about the people that buy a civic for the sole purpose of making it go fast! If that's the end result you want to achieve, there are other better cars, ones that are still somewhat reliable and can also handle the power better to get.

To oc civic, I still think that spending the same amount of money on another car with the proper combination would give you a better result. If your friend's civic is as fast as you say, that's really good. But I bet your friend didn't buy the civic to make it the fastest car around or to make it amazingly fast. I bet he bought it for other reasons too. I could be wrong cuz I'm just guessing here.

juvenile

04-21-2003, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
obviously it is inadiquate if he needs to SEARCH the internet for pics of dirty whores and girls who look like they are 14... im ASSUMING that it is not good enough for him by his ACTIONS
Ummm...where did you get this from? And second of all, why even mention shit like that in this thread? Is it called "Highlander's relationship issues thread?" No, we're discussing civics

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
Ummm...where did you get this from? And second of all, why even mention shit like that in this thread? Is it called "Highlander's relationship issues thread?" No, we're discussing civics

i highjacked it..

the new name is why i think hes a ***got.. thanks:yes:

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by juvenile

To oc civic, I still think that spending the same amount of money on another car with the proper combination would give you a better result. If your friend's civic is as fast as you say, that's really good. But I bet your friend didn't buy the civic to make it the fastest car around or to make it amazingly fast. I bet he bought it for other reasons too. I could be wrong cuz I'm just guessing here.

no he DID build it to be fast..

12's is not amazingly fast.. but its good for ANY car in the 7k range.. a mustang would have been faster.. but still its NOT a bad amount of cash to go 12's..

juvenile

04-21-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
i highjacked it..

the new name is why i think hes a ***got.. thanks:yes:
Whatever, you want to be immature, go ahead. In order to "backup" your point, you have to flame people and be a dickhead. Well, we'll see where this attitude gets you in life.
See ya later. I'm done trying to share some info with children like you.

ebpda9

04-21-2003, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by oc civic
...hate your OBSESION with porn.. and your posting it all over the board..grow the **** up.. get a girl.. and MAYBE we will ALL be better off..

i think that is mt. biker not highlander

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by juvenile
Whatever, you want to be immature, go ahead. In order to "backup" your point, you have to flame people and be a dickhead. Well, we'll see where this attitude gets you in life.
See ya later. I'm done trying to share some info with children like you.

no i can backup my point EASILY.. ready watch..

i think he should leave the reasons are.
1. he does not own a honda
2. nor is he buying one any time soon
3. he does not think that it is cool to go all out modding them (this IS a honda modding sight
4. he suffers from "its still just a honda syndrome"
5. he has a porn addiction that we are subjected to all across the board, adn it has cought onto other board members..
6. he is NOT an asset to the site..

look i MIGHT be a dickhead, BUT i have helped MANY on this site... with TECH info.. i dont come hear to listen to him bable about why in his vast automotive knowledge my car of choice in inferior, NOR do i come here for the kiddy porn he is so fond of... i come here to leanr and teach.. ABOUT HONDAS..

dude.. its OBVIOUS hes a scumbag.. IF you have to preface naked pictures of girls with "i know she looks younger than 18..but she not"

then you are ****ing trash.. its CALLED KIDDY PORN.... when i have kids remind me to NEVER let them near him.. he might undress them with his eyes..

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
i think that is mt. biker not highlander

WOW i stand corrected.. it is.. OMG.. wow.. i take ALL the kiddy porn stuff back:yes:

SolPol

04-21-2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
i think that is mt. biker not highlander

I was gonna say :yes:

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by SolPol
I was gonna say :yes:

ok ok .. i HATE the mtbiker guy.. lol i DISLIKE the highlander guy.. i will NOT edit my last few posts in here because that would be me trying to cover up me being wrong.. and i WAS wrong. lol i do NOT hate the highlander guy.. i hate the other guy.. i STAND corrected..;)

SolPol

04-21-2003, 11:49 AM

Why? Mt Biker is always amusing. Personally, I enjoy a little pseudo porn to break up the day.

Addict

04-21-2003, 11:54 AM

Easy there fellas.
highlander has some sort of "holier than thou" attitude now that he's getting a new G35 coupe. He'll eventually stop posting this stuff when he either receives little response from us or finds something more worthwhile to post about.
Let's not 'torch' this thread too bad.

Originally posted by oc civic
ok ok .. i HATE the mtbiker guy.. lol i DISLIKE the highlander guy.. i will NOT edit my last few posts in here because that would be me trying to cover up me being wrong.. and i WAS wrong. lol i do NOT hate the highlander guy.. i hate the other guy.. i STAND corrected..;)
LoL:D

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:56 AM

im going back to the "civic" section.. lol good bye.

oc civic

04-21-2003, 11:57 AM

SolPol

04-21-2003, 12:01 PM

Racing Rice

04-21-2003, 12:05 PM

Anyway.. Lets try to stay on topic here.. Which is why Highlander thinks Hondas are a waste of money..

The thing he seems to be missing here is the fact that most people that buy hondas to mod dont buy the car and drop $30K in the car on the same day. Its a gradual buildup, that takes time. I agree with the other guys that said, "you will never have the fastest anything..." There will always be someone that has more money, knowledge, etc. to build something better. Just have fun with what you have. Whether it be a civic, or a 355 Spyder. Because at the end of the day, its not what you drive that matters its how you drive it.;)

juvenile

04-21-2003, 12:11 PM

Dude, I didn't mean to come off as I hate civics. They're nice cars. I actually love the 98-2000 civics. They look really classy. I'm still considering on buying one as a next econocar. Personally, I just don't think they are worth spending a lot of money on. Of course if I'd buy one, I'd mod it, but I wouldn't try to make it what it's not made to be. Again this is my opinion.

And on the biker aspect, he doesn't go looking for it. He gets it from another message board that we both visit and just posts here. So dont' go off flaming him either. Because what's interesting is you don't like it but the majority of his repliers seem to thank him. So for now, majority wins I guess...

ebpda9

04-21-2003, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Addict
Easy there fellas.
highlander has some sort of "holier than thou" attitude now that he's getting a new G35 coupe. He'll eventually stop posting this stuff when he either receives little response from us or finds something more worthwhile to post about.
Let's not 'torch' this thread too bad.

LoL:D

the only thing worse than a honda driver is a nissan driver--someone on the net and from what i've seen locally i tend to agree.

Originally posted by Racing Rice
....Because at the end of the day, its not what you drive that matters its how you drive it.;)

correction: it's not how you stand by your car. it's how you race it. :rolleyes: guess where from is that quote ? ;)

oc civic

04-21-2003, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by juvenile

And on the biker aspect, he doesn't go looking for it. He gets it from another message board that we both visit and just posts here. So dont' go off flaming him either. Because what's interesting is you don't like it but the majority of his repliers seem to thank him. So for now, majority wins I guess...

**back from civic section** lol

ill flame em all i want... ;)

SolPol

04-21-2003, 12:37 PM

Tough one Hondaman. What's IAC anyway?

So what movie was that? Smokey and the Bandit? Cannonball Run?

ebpda9

04-21-2003, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by SolPol
Tough one Hondaman. What's IAC anyway?

So what movie was that? Smokey and the Bandit? Cannonball Run?

lol, first questions first: hondamaniac. that was taken when i signed up for a board for the first time.

and lol about the movie question: the lost and the curious

firstgeardude

04-21-2003, 12:49 PM

back to the original question... ya i like civics... id make one fast too if i had one

SolPol

04-21-2003, 12:57 PM

The Lost and the Curious :banana:

LOL

I think we all knew that though.

Wren57

04-21-2003, 01:40 PM

Come on people, I seriously doubt some of you even READ my first post. I said I like Hondas and they are cool cars, but if the SOLE INTENT of a honda is to make it fast there are better cars to build up which will give a better return on the money. I like civics, I like driving my friends, but if all I wanted was a autox beast I would not choose a civic. Hondas are cool cars to mod and are fun. And I have been going out with one girl for 19 months now, have no addiction to porn or whatever you want to say... I know you corrected yourself but I want to set the record straight too. Anyways I will check back in here later when I have more time, Im late for a haircut right now.

zm_dawg

04-21-2003, 01:43 PM

oc.....i don't give a dam bout your friend eric.....
and highlanders' totally correct.....if your walking around a carlot thinking i wanna go real fast......let me get that civic over there....you got a problem from the start and thats all that highlander was tryin to get across.....if your buying a civic....to be the fastest....in your city or block you messed up....and if you still are the fastest....well, get off that block

Racing Rice

04-21-2003, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by highlander
Come on people, I seriously doubt some of you even READ my first post. I said I like Hondas and they are cool cars, but if the SOLE INTENT of a honda is to make it fast there are better cars to build up which will give a better return on the money. I like civics, I like driving my friends, but if all I wanted was a autox beast I would not choose a civic. Hondas are cool cars to mod and are fun. And I have been going out with one girl for 19 months now, have no addiction to porn or whatever you want to say... I know you corrected yourself but I want to set the record straight too. Anyways I will check back in here later when I have more time, Im late for a haircut right now.

People buy what they want, because thats what they want. Im still trying to figure out what the point of this thread is. If someone has the money to build a 10 second civic, and they succeed at building a 10 second civic. Why are they wrong in doing so? Because you think they wasted money. Thats your opinion.

Dare to dream! Tell the guy with the 13 second festiva that that he wasted his money. Im sure he wont feel the same way. Why do you even worry about what other people are spending their money on?

oc civic

04-21-2003, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by zm_dawg
oc.....i don't give a dam bout your friend eric.....
and highlanders' totally correct.....if your walking around a carlot thinking i wanna go real fast......let me get that civic over there....you got a problem from the start and thats all that highlander was tryin to get across.....if your buying a civic....to be the fastest....in your city or block you messed up....and if you still are the fastest....well, get off that block

what do you drive..

the point is i can say that about almost ANY car.. i mean ESPECIALY in drag racing.. when you talk about autox the field opens up a little....... but all i was saying is this.. "honda Style" no one MAKES you come here.. no one MAKES him come here.. if you dont like it leave.. its that simple...im my mind if you want to go fast in a straight line there is ONE car MAYBE two to get.. if you want fastest for cheap.. and as far as if you are the fastest blah blah.. that implys that ALL hondas are slow.. well MOST ARE.. but not all..but 12's are not slow.. ESPECIALY for a street car... there are not a whole lot of cars that bost 12s for that much cheaper (import at least)

sc0rch

04-21-2003, 03:28 PM

ok i dont see the point of this whole thing....i think it's to see howmany people get fired up and take things the wrong way....i'm not gonna cry about my car being slow.(like some people)......and the fact i coulda bought a twin turbo 300zx for $9k and droped the same into it i plan on dropping into my car.......i just couldnt get a loan for a car that old and dont wanna pay insurance for a twin turbo

cashizslick

04-21-2003, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by oc civic
just admit you have not a clue about what you are talking about

Actually, i do have quite the clue. My neighbor has an 89 cobra (we talk car tech a lot). His car is modded to the teath and he just swapped out his entire motor for one he rebuilt (pistons, rods, cam, p&p, heads, rockers, ect.) His car runs low 12's/high 11's - and he is ALWAYS out in his yard fixing something stupid like snaped belts, headlights burning out, replacing ignitions, stuff like that. He admits to me that his car is fast, fun, trendy (much like my civic) and a P.O.S.

-You should think twice about calling people idiots and then rambling on for several pages about absolutely nothing.

VR4_Craver

04-21-2003, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by juvenile
You know what people, **** this, I'm done since people read the entire thread and just posts off. VR4 Craver, Mushroom, if you would have read what I said numerous times and what he said, you would have gotten that he didn't buy that car to make it fast. His grandparents actually gave him the car. And notice that he's selling it now?!?!

So your are saying that he had not intent on making his "van" faster than it was? Why dump money into the mods he did? Gift or not he put money into it for the SOLE purpose to make it faster than what it is. Otherwise he would not have put the intake and all the other stuff he put on there.

ebpda9

04-21-2003, 05:37 PM

you peaople don't have a limit do u ?

oc civic

04-21-2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by cashizslick
Actually, i do have quite the clue. My neighbor has an 89 cobra (we talk car tech a lot). His car is modded to the teath and he just swapped out his entire motor for one he rebuilt (pistons, rods, cam, p&p, heads, rockers, ect.) His car runs low 12's/high 11's - and he is ALWAYS out in his yard fixing something stupid like snaped belts, headlights burning out, replacing ignitions, stuff like that. He admits to me that his car is fast, fun, trendy (much like my civic) and a P.O.S.

-You should think twice about calling people idiots and then rambling on for several pages about absolutely nothing.

he should get a civic since they never burn out headlights :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

if his car is "modded to the teeh" and only goes 12's then hes an idiot...

firstgeardude

04-21-2003, 06:09 PM

you really know how to make enemies dont you?

callin everyone a moron and all......

and why do you click on the 18+ threads if you hate porn so much?

no one needs to hear you trash everyone.........

oc civic

04-21-2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by firstgeardude
you really know how to make enemies dont you?

callin everyone a moron and all......

and why do you click on the 18+ threads if you hate porn so much?

no one needs to hear you trash everyone.........

oh wow you cought me there...

firstgeardude

04-21-2003, 06:26 PM

whatever guy...

you're funny

mt.biker

04-21-2003, 06:47 PM

oc civic, if you want to talk about maturity your the wrong person the be the standard. First off you need to realize this is the internet, and that when it says 18+ most likely you aren't going to be seeing pictures of cars. Considering that I think very poorly of you right now that’s fine that you hate me, to bad you already hate someone you haven't meet and lives 1000's of miles away from you. You know they have doctors and pills for issues like that? Might I recommend you go see one, because God only knows you need it. Such rage issues over a civic.

It all sounds to me like you have a small cock complex. Driving around in a civic that you've wasted money trying to make as fast as a decent car. Hell man if that’s what you want to do with your time that’s fine by the rest of us. But just because your friend dropped a h22 into a civic hatch doesn't mean its a cool car. It means he has more money/time on his hands then brains. Civics are eco boxes, stop pretending like they are anything but. Yes your friend might run some nice times in that car, but it still looks like a POS civic. I know not everyone was blessed with taste and so I let it slide with you and your friend. Civic's are chicks cars, if you choose to mod one, let there be no mistaking your choice of car.

Now on to your problem with porno..

There are only two types of guys who say they don’t like porno.
1-F A G's
2-liars

I'm gonna go out and guess you dont really have a girlfriend but a boyfriend. This would put you into group number 1, so your right you wouldnt like looking at chicks. My bad for not posting the type of ga y shit you'd be looking at. I on the other hand have no trouble looking at naked chick. As for what chick I'm dating, well thats none of your business.

Seems to me you dont like wren and I and yet we drive two of the more pricey cars on this board. I wonder who really has this issues here? Grow up, know your role and shut your mouth.

notice there was no foul language used in my post

juvenile

04-21-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by firstgeardude
whatever guy...

you're funny
omg :D OWN3D!!! :D

juvenile

04-21-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by firstgeardude
whatever guy...

you're funny
omg :D OWN3D!!! :D

Wren57

04-21-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by VR4_Craver
So your are saying that he had not intent on making his "van" faster than it was? Why dump money into the mods he did? Gift or not he put money into it for the SOLE purpose to make it faster than what it is. Otherwise he would not have put the intake and all the other stuff he put on there.

I admit the Highlaner is basically a camry wagon on steroids, but hey it was fun. I did not buy it to make it fast, I bought it to haul friends and duck hunt, and yes with the mud tires it is a beast offroad. Anyways I didn't want mud tires on it year-round so I bought some summer tires and summer rims and the intake/exhaust wasn't really that expensive. I didn't try to make it the fastest ever, just tried to make it not quite as slow as I knew I would be selling it soon and don't like driving slowazz cars.

As for some people on here, I must ask the question. WHY does everything turn into a personal soap opera? This is HSTuners, a car message board dealing primarily with hondas. Soooo, lets talk about cars instead of who is a good person and why someone hates someone else, that is so lame, and I beg those parties to stop with the childishness. Plenty of times people here get on my nerves, but resorting to all-out flaming is just stupid. Please everyone go back to page one and simply read, one word at a time, what I wrote and maybe you will actually understand the message instead of reading two lines and forming conclusions. Thank you and have a nice day.

cashizslick

04-21-2003, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by oc civic
he should get a civic since they never burn out headlights :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

if his car is "modded to the teeh" and only goes 12's then hes an idiot...

You are a pretty big ricer huh (since you think its SO easy to run 11's - just hit the NNNAAAAWWWSSS huh?) When i said modded to the teath, i should also have mentioned that the car has street radials and a full sound system. And by the way, his setup is all NA so far and his car would destroy most cars on the street - especially your friends h22 civic (with 2 times as much $$ into the motor as this stang.)

zm_dawg

04-21-2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by oc civic
what do you drive..

the point is i can say that about almost ANY car.. i mean ESPECIALY in drag racing.. when you talk about autox the field opens up a little....... but all i was saying is this.. "honda Style" no one MAKES you come here.. no one MAKES him come here.. if you dont like it leave.. its that simple...im my mind if you want to go fast in a straight line there is ONE car MAYBE two to get.. if you want fastest for cheap.. and as far as if you are the fastest blah blah.. that implys that ALL hondas are slow.. well MOST ARE.. but not all..but 12's are not slow.. ESPECIALY for a street car... there are not a whole lot of cars that bost 12s for that much cheaper (import at least)

unsure as to why it got to why I came here and everything all i said is i don't like your buddy eric....right now i'm driving my dad's car a 91 Talon TSI, I have no money to buy a car and my '00 civic EX was totalled out....i love coming to HS...for these talks and this and that and i've met great people and enjoy the social aspect of it....i never implied all honda's are slow and if you took it the wrong way...i'm frankly sorry...but actually...most honda's are slow...i bought my civic cause i knew it'd be reliable and i wanted to see what i could do w/ it...never thought about fast until i started reading everything i have....then i realized my civic has 112 HP...and for 4 K i could get 170 HP....then it was totalled out and it was the best thing that could have ever happened to me and my wallet....can't wait for the next ignorant flame i recieve

cashizslick

04-21-2003, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by zm_dawg
....can't wait for the next ignorant flame i recieve

I dont think you have too long to wait - oc civic posts quite frequently.

Wren57

04-21-2003, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by oc civic
[B]no i can backup my point EASILY.. ready watch..

i think he should leave the reasons are.
1. he does not own a honda
2. nor is he buying one any time soon
3. he does not think that it is cool to go all out modding them (this IS a honda modding sight
4. he suffers from "its still just a honda syndrome"
5. he has a porn addiction that we are subjected to all across the board, adn it has cought onto other board members..
6. he is NOT an asset to the site..

Ok I just got around to wanting to reply to this BS, so here goes.

1. Just because I don't have a Honda doesn't mean I can't talk about cars? Riight:rolleyes:
2. See #1
3. Modding any car is cool as long as it is done in taste, but spending 10k on a civic with the SOLE INTENT of making it fast is a waste of time
4. Hondas are cool, as I have said I like my friends civic, and I can appreciate a well-modded fast civic any day even if it did take 40k to get it there
5. We have cleared this up, I have a girlfriend, no obsession with porn.
6. I see myself as an asset to the site trying to teach people that Hondas arent the best cars to mod for speed...

So, still have any good reasons why I should leave?

cashizslick

04-21-2003, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by highlander
I see myself as an asset to the site trying to teach people that Hondas arent the best cars to mod for speed...

Anybody who doesnt realize that after installing an intake has a serious problem . . . .

Kyle

04-21-2003, 11:10 PM

so wren...you stay at a honda tuning site just for the sole purpose of "teaching" us that honda's aren't built for speed?...
thats pretty damn lame...

ChrisCantSkate

04-21-2003, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by highlander
I see myself as an asset to the site trying to teach people that Hondas arent the best cars to mod for speed...

get off your high stool. dont for one second think this site needs you. you post shit thats been talked about over and opver and think your the first person to bring it up. dont wana be a dick, but you think you know alot more than you really do

nonovurbizniz

04-21-2003, 11:56 PM

This whole post got overblown because highlander didn't mention that it's basically a message to OPAKRACING... he is talking about spending thousands and thousands of dollars on his civic in hopes of something that he probobly won't get.... That's not to say you can't be more than happy modding racing auto-xing a civic till the day you die... it's just saying that if your goal is to build a track car or a auto-x car a honda just isn't the most intelligent choice... there are a bivvy of other cars out there more suited to handleing the road and handleing the extra power you intend on giving it.

I like my civic it's alright with a 50 shot or a turbo I'm sure it'd be quick with 3-10 k I'm sure I could get lots of respect at a track... but if your looking to win at the track in something other than bracket racing.... honda's not the way to go (unless your more concerned with sponsorship money than you are having the best platform for the job.).

and oc... if you don't realize that your buddy could have bought a 240 or a sentra ser and turboed the sr20de motor and had a WAY faster car with MUCH better traction and handling AND it would've been cheaper... you nutz.

And as for porn... whatever man. grow up.. if you don't like looking at naked girls.... I mean sh*t I don't even have to finish that sentence.

EVERYBODY LIGHTEN UP. Shit I thought I was the A$$hole around here.

TeriyakiBroccoli

04-21-2003, 11:58 PM

jesus fricken christ!

I looked at this thread this morning and when i got on tongith this shit exploded

juvenile

04-22-2003, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by TeriyakiBroccoli
jesus fricken christ!

I looked at this thread this morning and when i got on tongith this shit exploded
That's how the flu gets spread around don'tcha know ;) :D

zm_dawg

04-22-2003, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by cashizslick
I dont think you have too long to wait - oc civic posts quite frequently.
waitin patiently ha..........
highlander.....don't worry bout this petty shit.....all and all everything you've said is true....all it's coming down to is how much money you have at the time of purchase.....if you have $30K and opt to buy a civic instead of somethin else....your issues are arising.....why buy a civic and not somethin else that is exactly at the same stage + the mods as the civic.....the point is to go fast isn't it?
OPAK if you want a 600HP car.....and can't tear yourself away from a subwoofer box you got issues.....they're runnin civics at nearly 10's......and all they got is there seat and the other racing material......so why don't you start tearing apart your interior and if your not sick of doing that.....then buy your swap and everything else your ready to do....but never really thought in depth about

Racing Rice

04-22-2003, 10:10 AM

Im still waiting for someone to reply to my questions with an intelligent answer...:rolleyes:

Wren57

04-22-2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Racing Rice
People buy what they want, because thats what they want. Im still trying to figure out what the point of this thread is. If someone has the money to build a 10 second civic, and they succeed at building a 10 second civic. Why are they wrong in doing so? Because you think they wasted money. Thats your opinion.

Dare to dream! Tell the guy with the 13 second festiva that that he wasted his money. Im sure he wont feel the same way. Why do you even worry about what other people are spending their money on?

Dude, listen. Im not telling people what to spend their money on, I simply don't care, I am just trying to help them make an educated decision if they choose they want be the "fastest" (I know there is always someone faster). I said many times I think civics are cool and I would like to have one, but for the same amount of money their are better alternatives... They aren't wrong to spend their money. However they spend their money is fine with me, but I tend to like to give people a heads-up when I might know something they either dont or have overlooked. And, as I said in my original post, these are JUST MY THOUGHTS. Jeez people, agree to disagree, its OK...

cashizslick

04-22-2003, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by nonovurbizniz
This whole post got overblown because highlander didn't mention that it's basically a message to OPAKRACING... he is talking about spending thousands and thousands of dollars on his civic in hopes of something that he probobly won't get.... That's not to say you can't be more than happy modding racing auto-xing a civic till the day you die... it's just saying that if your goal is to build a track car or a auto-x car a honda just isn't the most intelligent choice... there are a bivvy of other cars out there more suited to handleing the road and handleing the extra power you intend on giving it.

I like my civic it's alright with a 50 shot or a turbo I'm sure it'd be quick with 3-10 k I'm sure I could get lots of respect at a track... but if your looking to win at the track in something other than bracket racing.... honda's not the way to go (unless your more concerned with sponsorship money than you are having the best platform for the job.).

and oc... if you don't realize that your buddy could have bought a 240 or a sentra ser and turboed the sr20de motor and had a WAY faster car with MUCH better traction and handling AND it would've been cheaper... you nutz.

And as for porn... whatever man. grow up.. if you don't like looking at naked girls.... I mean sh*t I don't even have to finish that sentence.

EVERYBODY LIGHTEN UP. Shit I thought I was the A$$hole around here.

I'd have to say i agree with you on every thing you just listed. There are so many kids who get a civic and/or want a civic because everybody else has one.
I saw a kid i know yesterday who said he wanted to get a civic cause they are "hot". Said he liked what i had done with mine and wanted to follow suit. The bottom line is that modified civics are everywhere, and that is why people are decieved into thinking they are untapped performance powerhouses.

cashizslick

04-22-2003, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by highlander
Dude, listen. Im not telling people what to spend their money on, I simply don't care, I am just trying to help them make an educated decision if they choose they want be the "fastest" (I know there is always someone faster). I said many times I think civics are cool and I would like to have one, but for the same amount of money their are better alternatives... They aren't wrong to spend their money. However they spend their money is fine with me, but I tend to like to give people a heads-up when I might know something they either dont or have overlooked. And, as I said in my original post, these are JUST MY THOUGHTS. Jeez people, agree to disagree, its OK...

Its good to have people here who are not honda owners/not honda lovers. This causes people like me to question if we are going to spend our money properly - why would people not want to do what will be most benificial for themselves (if nobody questions what you do, how do you know you are doing things the best way??)
-there is nothing wrong with you being here, it helps us true enthusiasts who are truly doing what we know we want.

Racing Rice

04-22-2003, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by highlander
Dude, listen. Im not telling people what to spend their money on, I simply don't care, I am just trying to help them make an educated decision if they choose they want be the "fastest" (I know there is always someone faster). I said many times I think civics are cool and I would like to have one, but for the same amount of money their are better alternatives... They aren't wrong to spend their money. However they spend their money is fine with me, but I tend to like to give people a heads-up when I might know something they either dont or have overlooked. And, as I said in my original post, these are JUST MY THOUGHTS. Jeez people, agree to disagree, its OK...

Conclusion, Highlander just wanted to state the obvious. This has been said over and over again, thanks for the news flash anyhow. Im glad to see that we have 6 or 7 pages of pointless posts.